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Hi everyone. I guess one of us needs to start off the discussions, so I will introduce myself a little.
It is indeed possible to live lightly on the land, and actually improve rather than destroy the natural balance and health of a piece of property. After all, we are one of nature's critters, too.
In the early 80's I bought an old homestead that was run down and very neglected. The place seemed gloomy and depressed, and the realtor almost refused to drive way out there to show it to me. I fell in love the moment I stepped onto it.
A year later, the ancient fruit trees were overproducing, as were the old grapevines (which "never grew a grape" per the prior owner), the tangled mess of overgrown weeds were history thanks to my goats, the slug invasion had succumbed to the ducks, the old roses were blooming like mad, berries hanging in bucketfulls, clover was knee deep, honeybees were back, etc., etc...and new trees planted all over the place were shooting up. The place glowed, swallows and hummingbirds flew in and out of my kitchen, people started to stop to take photos of it, and dozens of deer, pheasants, herons, wolves, and even 2 black bear had happily moved in with my livestock.
I never used a single chemical, and did very little to disturb the soil...basically I enhanced and encouraged what the land already wanted to do. My animals were chosen to compliment the land, not harm it. Within a few years I was only going to town to shop for a few groceries about once every 8 weeks, and didn't even like to do that. Was I lonely? Oh, hell no! In 1988 I had over 500 visitors in just a few months, simply from word of mouth (to "see my horses", yeah, right). They wandered around almost in a trance, as if the place just couldn't be real.
The secret is to choose your location for one thing, and one thing only; the land. It needs to be the right piece of ground, or you are just butting your head against a wall. You can find this in the most unexpected places, like a little oasis tucked up in some river valley. You need to analyze how sheltered the place is in winter, the aspect and topography, the soil, prevailing winds (look at the trees for clues here), what natural resources are completely inside your property lines and how renewable they are, water, water, and water....all of the things that money cannot buy nor effort correct (improvements should not be a factor - you can add those, you can't add things like good southern exposure). Find a place that you don't want to change, just build a nest on.
Then, look carefully at the locals who live well with their land, and listen closely to their advice (with closed mouth and open ears). They've been there, and you can learn from their trials/errors/successes.
Right now, my partner and I are looking for property in the Pacific NW, with the intention of doing it again. We hope to move this summer....
:-)
Grandma
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Re: Living lightly
Sat, July 31, 2004 - 5:39 AMwould that I had been able to read this post 4 years ago. :) I moved from the west coast to the midwest, in a rush. So we bought a house in a weekend. Not noticing there wasn't a single tree on the lot, and the area we bought in has clay soil that makes foundation repair a given in about 15 years.
Thru trial and expencive error, I now have a lovley area that has herbs and a very small pond ( my gold fish had babies!! I'm so excited!!!!). I'm cheating with potting soil, alot of potting soil but you can eat right off the plant. ( which my husband refuses to do. Scared he might eat a bug- silly man.)
I've learned that Texas has it's own stark and strict beauty. You do have to take this land, I guess for that matter any land, on it's terms, as anything else will get burnt in the sun or drown in the sudden passionate storms. I spent alot of money/time/engery trying to get the yard to look like a yard I had on the west coast or even Salt Lake, before realizing, it's just gotta look like Texas. Looking back it seems kinda stupid to try and bend the enviroment to be something it wasn't/couldn't be. :) Lucky for me there was only one casuality- but it's a painful one. We splurged on a beautiful red oak for the back yard, so I could have a tree. She didn't make it. We didn't do enough resarch to make sure she had the things she needed. However in the cradle of the stump there is a little startling, making her way in to the world. Little bit of hope. :)
I have learned to go to the small nursery's, not chains, and listen more carfuly to the land. I pay more attention to the yards of those outside the city area, look and see what "natives" are growing, and what they are NOT growning. :)
I hope you are able to find a new place to heal and nurture Grandma Midwife. What a wonderful thing to beable to do so, grant the gift in multiple places.
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Re: Living lightly
Sat, July 31, 2004 - 1:19 PMOh, poor baby...I grew up in Texas, and you are sure right - Texas dictates what you do and/or plant, not your own wishes. You might check with the locals and find out if native pecan grow in your area, because if they do they are wonderful trees, very hardy, and after they get established they give lots of small but exquisite nuts. The natives are not as needy as the domesticated varieties. If not pecans, folks around there should know which trees will thrive. I am guessing that shade would very welcome...
What part of Texas are you in? (They differ so much - if there are no trees you must be pretty far from the Gulf.)
If your area doesn't get severe freezes then just for fun (and landscaping, if you contain them well) you might get some prickly pear pads and start them. Just lay them on the ground or poke the end into the soil. They are very nutritious (beware the tiny reddish spines, not the big white spikes - the little ones will make your life misrerable so DON'T touch them), both the pads and the sweet purple fruit. The blossoms are lovely. Any and all kinds of aloe also do well in areas without harsh freezes. Your aloe can be potted and brought inside in winter - so can the prickly pear if you give it a large pot (on wheels is a good idea, they are thick succulents and get very heavy).
Hang in there, Texas is pretty harsh but eventually will grace you with offerings of it's own choosing if you encourage them.
Big hugs,
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Tue, August 3, 2004 - 6:01 AMThey do have pecan trees here in Dallas.... I think... or they might be a little more south.....Not that there are not any trees here, we just managed to buy a lot with no trees. :) We have a couple of vouenters, cotton wood and a fruitless mulberry I think. But they are growing right on top of each other. I'm hoping I can seperate them and get them in another part of the yard.
I have a bad memory with prickly pears. I got one in my swimsuit while floating down a river in Zion national park when I was about 12 years old. Not fun. They had to pour hot wax on the fine spines to lift them out. *shrudder*
I am looking more in to native plants. I'm so obessesed with "pretty" and Texas is quickly re-difineing it for me. Or I guess I'm learning to apreciate "handsom". It's a very "male" place for me, which is why I guess I'm having a hard time adapting. :)
Aloe, why didn't I think of that!!!
What part of Texas did you live in G.M.?
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Re: Living lightly
Tue, August 3, 2004 - 12:11 PM
I was born in Houston and until I was 10 we lived on a large acreage which now has several skyscrapers on it. Then we moved 60 miles west, and for the next several years we watched the city grow closer, several miles each year. Then I got the heck out of there!
So I lived in the semi-coastal semi-tropical semi-rainforest where the temp was often over 100 F for weeks at a time with humidity 95-99% ...ugh. It gave me a vast appreciation for the northwest.
I spent one whole summer in Canada in a little cabin on a lake, with no (repeat, NO) modern amenities whatsoever, and I LOVED it. It was glorious. That was living. I ate better than royalty, drank water finer then wine, breathed air like the sweetest perfume...(sigh)
One thing that really strikes me about Texas (unlike some place like Montana) - it is so flat that there are no vistas, the horizon just seems to drop off or get intercepted by something (like trees or even bushes), and you don't have anything far in the distance to focus on. My bitchy sister-in-law (who had never been out of Texas before) came with my brother to visit me up here once, and her mouth fell open upon departing the airplane, and stayed that way for 6 days. I took them on the grand tour; Mt. St Helens, Mt. Rainier, the San Juan Islands, the Olympic peninsula. The change in her personality was astounding, as she looked at Mt. Rainier and realized that she was not the center of the universe after all! LOL She was speechless for the first time in her life - it was so peaceful! (*evil grin*)
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Re: Living lightly
Sat, July 31, 2004 - 3:31 PMDitto more or less what Grandma said. I just tag along 6-8 feet behind. *S*
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Sat, July 31, 2004 - 3:44 PM
(Oh, don't believe that MH for a minute - my behind is not 6-8 feet.)
Of course, if you decide to move to the Pacific northwest, anything will grow out here...
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Re: Living lightly
Mon, August 2, 2004 - 10:52 AMI've been promised that when we "retire" we get to go to Eugene Or.. I just hope it's still the small, weird college town that I love, 15 years from now. If Jim, my hubby, could tolerate the climate, we'd be there now, but there ya go. He's gonna be a crabby "old" man anyway, so he can be crabby in the rain. :)
Till then I'm at the mercy of Texas and where ever else we end up. :)
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